This is how antisemitism will go away forever and leaving Jews alone

Antisemitism will not go awat until we abandon all supremacist religions: “this is THE TRUTH, the rest are wrong/evil”, and we fully return/recover/”convert” to Greek Reason. The Greeks, even the Romans, were not antisemites, how could they be if they were far above any “THIS is THE TRUTH” religion-based society.

The Greeks in particular were so far ahead that only when we adopted part of their thinking did Europe developed the Renaissance and the Enlightenment, pulled European Jews along, and the rest is that the whole World started to become Western, China being the las country to adopt the scientific and economic and political ideas of the West. Unfortunately, they are still stuck in a terrible, political Western-Jewish pilitical idea, Messianic Marxism. But soon they will ditch it for democracy.

By the way, democracies today have not yet caught up with ancient Greek democracies.

Our democracies are a great advance with respect to absolute kings, emperors, theocracies, dictators, communism and fascism because we have freedom of expression, freedom to choose our rulers, but we, the people still do not rule.

In ancient Greek democracies the people ruled; the people, after organized discussion and debate, were the final authority on any law or policy.

In Greek democracy there were no holy books, no revealed truth, no prophets, no messiahs, no supreme gods; humans were the measure of all things, as Protagoras stated 2500 years ago.

If the people are not the final executive and legislative authority, we are not a democracy; freedom of expression and freedom to choose rulers are not enough, we must have freedom to decide and to prevail over elected politicians, and the Supreme Court must not exist or be a council of the people, no judges appointed by politicians.

The only country that comes close to real democracy today is Switzerland.

Once the people rule and Reason is the measure, antisemitism will disappear. We need to transcend religion.

By adopting Reason and giving up religion we will, again, leave any religion based society behind.

A side benefit will be that Christians and Moslems and perhaps others, will overcome without anger, without resentment, their pathetic inferiority complex with respect to Jews ans will far outhink Judaism-based thought, just like the Greeks decisively and forever did more than 2800 years ago.

Thanks Polievre!, thanks Rogan!

Polievre chat with Joe Rogan.

And we all need the Swiss system of political decision making. Polievre and Joe did not say it, but I will: the Swiss system is real democracy, the democracies of all other democratic countries are half baked democracies because the wiil of the people is often not carried and sometimes the politicians make decisions contrary to the will of the people.

It does not matter if they are representative democracies English style, or Republics in the American or French style.

Non democracies like Russia, China, Iran are abominations contrary to human dignity and life. Absolute monarquies like Saudi Arabia are also abominations but not as terrible.

Communist, fascist or one man or one party or one religion dictatorships are all abominations and must disappear from the face of the earth, they diseases, just like cancer, polio, the Wohan virus etc.

Study the Swiss.

TheSwissPoliticalSystem.com

Thanks Polievre! I hope Carney agrees and Canada becomes another Switzerland, or better.

A land where the people have final executive and legislative power over politicians.

A land where the people, on their own initiative, can call for binding referendums on any proposal that 1% of registered voters sign up to sen it to binding referendum; any law, new or existing, any policy, any provision of the cobstitution.

A Spanish poet; Machado wrote about life: “Walker, there is no way ahead, you make the way as you walk”.

In the Swiss system: ” there is no fixed constitition, the voters make the cobstitution as they vote in referemdumns”.

The Swiss apply the same system in towns, cantons ( they are a bit like US states but with more autonomy)

Thanks Polievre!, thanks Rogan!

To “foaming at the mouth” antisemites like Carlson, Kasparian and others.

A number of people have lost their minds as a result of Israel’s abominal behaviour in Gaza; they now defend the Ayatollahs, they have hone “full Hamas”.

Let us be rational; Iran is a threat to everybody. What sort of Moslem regime will even scare its Moslem neighbours to the point of them wanting to have American military bases? Keep in mind America is Israel’s strongest ally by far.

The Iranian regime murders thousands of Iranians just for protesting. What kind of Iranians or Moslems are those willing to kill fellow Iranians, fellow Moslens in Iran and outside Iran?

What kind of regime will support Hamas and Hizbollah, what kind of regime declare as its main goal to eliminate Israel and consider America the devil when even Israel’s neighbours are starting to accept Israel?

It is obvious that people like Ana Kasparian, Jimmy Dore, Tucker Carlson and many others have lost their minds; they have evolved from the sanity of criticising Israel in Gaza to defending the Ayatollahs, the deadly enemy of Israel, and the country firing missiles at its neighbouring Moslem states just because those nations decided that the Iranian regime scares them and to protect themselves invited the Americans to have bases.

In other words, Tucker, etc., have developed full Jewish Derangement Syndrome, totally irrational, they are defending the deadly enemies of the West and even of Arab Moslem states.

Frankly, it is not unlike supporting the nazis and the killing of the Jews when the British and the Americans started to attack the invaders of France, tge Nederlands, Poland, etc.

Carlson and the others at mad at American Jews because they have too much influence over American politicians.

They are right, the Jewish lobby does have too much influence over the President and Congress, no matter which party is in power.

But I think they would agree that so does the powerful lobbies of big pharma, big farm, big food processing, big retail, big weapons, big bureaucracy, big law, big oil, big solar, big labour, big health, big insurance and on and on.

I would even argue those lobbies, some of them by themselves, harm Americans far more than the Israeli lobby; for example, the lobbies who fight universal health care or healthy for Americans.

They would agree with me, if they are rational, that those lobbies, all of them have too much influence over politicians but do so legally, the US Constitution, the electoral campaign laws and the Supreme Court allow unlimited influence over electoral campaigns in the US.

The do that by allowing unlimited money contributions, positive and attack ads, by controlling news and editorials, etc.

The Jewish lobby is very successful in its goal of helping Israel. I do think they make a mistake by, in my opinion, going too far in the use of their influence and have created a scary backlash.

But I think Tucker and the rest would also agree that in life and death terms, big food, big pharma, big farm, big “health”, kill or cause the death of far more Americans than all the Middle East wars, even if you assume that the US attacked Irak, Iran, etc., to help Israel.

If Tucker and the rest can overcome their JDS, they woul not attack the Jewish lobby; they would seek reform of the Constitution.

Need the Swiss amendment

“The American people can initiate binding referendums on any issue in their towns, states and at the federal level, and the results of such referendums will be of mandatory execution by the executive and the legislature, and the Supreme Court will not be permitted to consider the constitutionality of such referendums”.

Any citizen, group of citizens, lobby, union, professional group, political association or party (with or without elected politicians), any religious group, etc., can collect the 1% of signatures of registered voters agreing with the proponents of the referendum. Once they have the signatures after a reasoable time of several months or longer, dependind on the issue, the referendum shall take place.

For example, Americans could take to such referendum issues like abortion, terms for politicians, campaign laws, changes to the constitution, universal health system, pesticides, NATO, assistance to Israel, etc.

Just a reminder about civilizing the World and democracy

No, our civilisation is not Christian or JudeoChristian, our civilisation, the civilisation spreading around the World is the continuation of Greek civilisation. Christianity is just the religion of many.

Remember that Europe only took off, recivilized itself, in the Renaissance after knowing of the Greeks. This means that after 16 centuries of Christianity, Europe remained backward, as it can not be otherwise when faith suppresses freedom.

That is why also Communist countries, religious regimes, etc., keep countries backward. No, China is not a Communist regime, it is a fascist-capitalist regime using the word Communism to fool the Chinese people. Im fact, China is more like nazi Germany.

Just a reminder; the West civilized itself and its ideas and inventions in all areas of knowledge are gradually civilizing the whole World, but it is not because of Christianity, it is because in the Middle ages, after 1600 years of Christianity and even more of Judaism, some Europeans came across ancient Greek ideas like placing humans at the center, pushing divinities to the margins, freedom of thought and decision, and its natural consequence, democracy.

Fortunately, those Europeans became fascinated by Greek thought (which the ancient Israelis, along with Persians, Phillistines and orhers, were unable to grasp), otherwise Israel and the others would have become shiny sparks in the Ancient World and the Renaissance and Enlightenment would have happened abour 2000 year earlier, 400 before Christ, etc.)

The European Renaissance and the Enlightenment, this time, also won over many European Jews.

The rest is history, even smart people like Chinese, Japanese, Indians have “converted” to Western Civilization and some like the Japanese, the Taiwanese and others are as good, as civilized, as any Western country.

India has even embraced representative democracy, and the Chinese of the mainland surely will too in time, once they see that CCP Marxist dogmas and corruption, and controlling the people, holds them back materially and, just as important, in terms of freedom and human dignity. Yes, the Chinese today are way behind the ancient Greeks in freedom and dignity.

Another hard truth is that the Moslems, during their holy wars, also came across Greek thought.

At first they fell in love and adopted Greek freedom of thought, which is what Greek Philosophy is about. Unfortunately, soon the Islamic authorities felt unesat trying to thread Moslem dogma (rigid ideas) with Greek freedom of thought and in the 10th century started to shut freedom of thought down.

The Christian authorities were unable, but not unwilling to do the same but, for whatever reason, the Europeans resisted, although the Church tried hard; almost killed Galileo, burned his books, also burned Copernicus books and banned certain ancient Greek authors.

At the same time, faced with the impossibility of eradicating Greek thought, a number of Church authorities like Augustine, Thomas Aquinas and orhers performed assorted intellectual pirouettes trying to sew the Christo-Judean beliefs with Greek Reason and freedom of thought, an irational goal because faith and reason are like oil and water.

People have the right to have and believe anything that comforts them, but faith is real only in the mind of the believer.

Without scientofic proof, all the reasoning of the Fathers of the Church is about why God must exist, as per their reasoning, there is not one iota of proof that any god exists.

However, the idea of divinity is obviously comforting to millions of people, orherwise religion would not exist.

Testimonials about any god speaking to humans, miracles, etc., are not proof.

But let me tell you another hard truth; even today’s democracies are not real democracies. For sure they are far more civilized than any dictatorship; communist, islamic or fascist because they have freedom of thought and speech, and can elect their leaders, instead of being treated as not better than domestic animals, as is the case in all dictatorships.

The final hard truth is that only the Swiss haveba democracy that comes close to real democracy. This is because, while they have freedom of thought and expression and can elect representatives, the people can not decide any law or policy, which the Swiss can.

Many wars would not happen if ordinary citizens had the opportunity to discuss the issues and directly decide key laws, key policies and changes to the constitution, all on their own initiative and prevailing over decision or law made by politicians.

Bibi and Trump are 200% right in attacking Iran and destroying the regime, even if they are wrong in Gaza and on Epstein.

Buildimg democracy in Irak, Iran, Afghanistans, Lybia, Syria, etc., is not important, nor is it essential to have politically stable regimes after the evil regimes are overthrown.

What is important is that those countries do not become baes for terrorists, do not finance terrorists, do not have nuclear weapons that can threaten their neighbours or the civilized world, specifically the World that has civilized or is in the process of civilizing the world, not so much through empires and invasions but with ideas.

Basically, the West is the continuation of Greek classical thought about human reason as the basis to understanding ourselves, nature and the universe instead of this or that god, holy book, prophet or messiah.

By a fluke, the Italians and other Europeans rediscovered Greek thought and, bless them!, became fascinated, sparked the Renaissance and the Enlightenment that recivilized the Europeans and European Jews to Greek Reason.

In the process they initiated the destruction of religious faith, brought democracy and pushed off rule by god or holy books.

Im other words, our civilization is Greek ( they civilized the Romans too), it is the religion that is and is in the process of having been, Christian.

No, the advance is not Marxism, the “religion” that hates religin, but democracy.

In a democracy no god or priest rules anything, nor does the general secretary of any totalitarian, religous like, communist party inspired by “prophet” Marx and his insane “holy book”, Das Kapital.

In a democracy, in a real one, the people are free to propose ideas to their fellow citizens. The citizens debate them and vote to decide which law or policy should rule the community or the nation; no king, no president, no prime minister, no pope, no rabbi, no religion, no political ideology.

That is what the ancient Greeks did. Today. Only one country comes close to real democracy, Switzerland.

The Swiss people, unlike the people or the democracies of the ancient Greek city-states, do not decide every law or policy but decide ANY law or policy they choose to decide when about 1% of the registered voters decide a policy, law or the constitition must be decided by binding popular referendum.

In other words, among the modern democracies, Switzerland is the only one that can be considered a real democracy.

The rest of the so-called democracies are not so. They are elected aristocracies which often, such is the case in the US and many orhers, are dominated by lobbies who represent oligarchs.

Non democracies, like China, Iran, Saudi Arabia. Cuba, North Korea, etc , are inhumane abominations where the people have less rights than domestic animals.

Having said that, and regardless of the abominal actions of the Israeli army, directed by Netanyahu, in Gaza or of Trump’s protecting the Epstein criminal class, attacking and destroying crazy Mullahs of Iran is a proper moral action.

The Ayatollahs are so terrorific that do not only kill Iranians who protest, they kill gays, they enslave women with pre- Stonehenge clothing and behavioural rules, kill people who freely decide to abandon Islam and other crazy stuff like forcing women to play football with heads covered; they go beyond tha; the Ayatollahs are so terrorific that even states almost as backward as Iran, like Saudi Arabia, are so scared of them that they seek the protection of non-Moslem states, like US, and are even happy that the Jews bomb the hell out of Iran.

Maybe Bibi and Trump should go to jail for Gaza and Trump for the Epstein files, but on Iran they are 100% right, even if their motivation was to distract from Gaza and Epstein.

What is irrational is for many people to oppose attacking the crazy Iranian regime because of Gaza, because they hate the Jews or because they hate Trump.

It is irrational for the World to tolerate a regime like Iran’s; inhumane to its people, a threat to its neighbours, to Israel, to the West and a regime that if it had nuclear weapons could at will destroy the economies of the Gulf states and of much of the World by closing the Straights of Hormuz.

The critics of the attack on Iran have lost their common sense

Bring the Swiss system to the US. Let the people decide how much to help Israel and if attacking and destroying the Ayatollahs is justified.

My impression is most Americans still support the survival of Israel, do not support Hamas at all, do not support the abominal way Israel behaves in Gaza and other terro

itories, support a viable Palestinian state but without Hamas (with Hamas in power most American may support that Palestinians do not deserve a state.

Most Americans I believe support destroying the Islamist regime in power, in part because a nuclear Iran is a danger to Israel but, perhaps even more because a nuclear Iran would blackmail all states around into puppets.

I believe most Americans will also support impeaching Trump for its protection of Epstein’s criminal class.

If the US had the s

Swiss system, which only requires and amendment to the Constitution ( orherwise the Swiss Constitution resembles that of the US, in which it is based), there would be several groups in the US collecting signatures for a really democratic amd direct decision of those issues by the voters.

Furthermore, such decisions by the American people would protect American Jews and Israel much more solidly than the current strategy of Jews of basically intimidating candidates and elected politicians into supporting Israel the way most Jews want, not the way most Americans may ormay not want.

The Jewish lobby is doing what the crazy US electoral law allows; unlimited private money into all political campaigns. Quite ligically, the US public resents the Jews and the politicians when the will of the people is not considered or ignored.

Naturally, such resentment is rational because what all lobbies (not just the Jewish lobby) try to do is de facto by pass democracy.

As US democracy and politicians of all parties, become discredited in the eyes of the people the political gun powder spreads all over the nation waiting for a spark.

The spark could be mass unemployment, hyper inflation, growing inequality, deepening social and pilitical division, etc.

Carlson is nuts, and those trying to protect Iran from US attacks too, defending Iran because they hate the Jews is nuts.

One thing is to criticize Israel in Gaza, criticise the US for sending too much money to Israel BUT Iran is clearly the enemy of Israel AND of all Arab states around Iran, otherwise they would not accept American, British and French bases.

The actions of Iran attacking now the Arab states prove they are nuts and evil.

An Iran with nuclear weapons scares the Israelis BUT scares even more the Arabs.

It is rational too to attack Trump for protecting the Epstein class.

But Tucker, stupidly goes histerical over attacking Iran.

I suspect Tucker is now very antisemitic and that is why he attacks Trump for the attack on Iran.

That Israel wants the US to attack Iran, does not make it a war on behalf of Israel only, it is a war on behalf of the Arab states and on behalf of all those countries who depend on a stable supply of oil and gas out of the Arab states in the Gulf. Any idiot can understand the Islamists of Iran can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons and control oil production and oil shipping.

Sad to say but Tucker, David Smith, The Young Turks, Breaking Points, Jimmi Dore and many others have lost their minds not defending destroying the Ayatollah’s regime. Their obsession with Jewish power in the US has driven them irrational emotional. Literally, they are not thinking rationally.

The hard truth is that Israel was wrong in Gaza, Trump and US politicians are wrong supporting Israel too much, Hamas is nuts, the Ayatollahs are nuts, Trump is wrong protecting the Epstein criminals and should be impeached for that, and those criticiszing Israel and the US for attacking Iran are nuts too.

Get off your verbal behinds, take to the streets, drop all the anti Israel and anti Jewish lobby stuff, the anti Trump stuff and march together with people of any ideology demanding the Swiss system of political decision making in the hands of the people and off the hands of all politicians and lobbies.

Make the decision by the people binding on politicians. Do not allow the Supreme Court to decide over the people

Do not blame Israel and its lobbies, blame yourself!

Look guys, that Israel wants to destroy the Ayatollahs does not mean the Ayatollahs are not an evil regime.

The hard truth is that even the Moslem states around Iran fear it and that is why they have American military bases. Those states are not scared that the US or Israel will destroy them or take their oil.

The hard truth is that those states and Israel fear the ayatollahs.

They fear them for good reason. It is obvious Iran wants to have nuclear weapons, otherwise they would welcome inspections over all of Iran.

It is also obvious they want to destroy Israel.

It is also obvious that millions of Iranians want the regime gone. They have to be very angry and tired of the Ayatollahs to risk, and lose their lives by the thousands a few months ago.

The Israelis have turned arrogant but in part is because of the intransigence of Palestinians.

It is obvious the Jews invaded Palestinian lands in the 1940s, initially peacefully, later with terror and war.

Palestinians were right to oppose them but after several bloody defeats, and further loss of land, should have realized they would not be able to kick the Jews into the sea or back to Europe.

What they should have done is accept the reality of Israel and, while Israel had nor yet become arrogant with so much winning, try to get the US and international community to push Israel to accept a Palestinian state.

But they did not, even after the Jews defeated all Arab armies together.

After each defeat the Palestinians became more bitter and hateful, culminating wirh Hamas running Gaza.

Yes, the Jews, after every win increased their ambition to recreate Greater Israel and do everything they can to get the Palestinians to go.

Then Hamas committed several stupidities.

For example, once the Arab nations decided no more wars against the Jews and decided not to support Hamas, Hamas turned to Iran for support.

Then they made a huge mistake; the massacre of Jews on October 7.

Even if it is true that Israel on purpose weakened its defensive measures to facilitate rhe attack by Hamas, Hamas was still criminal, they did the killing.

Of course, if it is true the Israeli government removed troops to facilitate the killing, they deserve the death penalty but that is wrongdoing by Jews to Jews.

For Palestinians to seek support from Iran, a shiite state hateful of sunni states, was absolutely insane and it is no surprise the Jews went after Iran, Hizbollah, etc.

Fortunately for Palestinians, the Jews made a huge mistake; masdacre the innocent in Gaza.

That turned American public opinion against Jews and Israel. Its effects have not culminated but the time is not far when US piluticians come to see that supporting Israel is toxic at election time.

We are seeing Jewish influence in the US cracking but not yet collapsed.

Attacking Iran now is right. Israel is a new reality with the right to survive, although not tge right to Greater Israel, no matter what any holy book says.

But let us face it; what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians is not different from what the Moslems did to the peoples they conquered and nobody in Morocco or other places tries to kick the Moslems out, kill them and return to Paganism.

As for the US helping Israel too much, if that is so what most Americans like Carlson have to do is retune the US political system so that no lobby, Jewish, Chinese, Armenian, Moslem, pharmaceutical, military or any other lobby can have so much influence.

Do not blame the Jewish lobby or other lobbies, change the syatem instead.

The system the US and orthers need is the Swiss system or real power in rhe hands of the people.

In such syatem, politicians obey the people and the lobbies have to lobby the people. Study the Swiss system and how it will fix all major US messes.

Take to streets and demand the Swiss system, do not blame the Jews!

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